My level 2 shoulder seperation story

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Topic Title: My level 2 shoulder seperation story
Created On: 05/13/2008 11:06 PM

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 12/18/2008 01:05 AM

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DeformedBustedUpShoulderGuy

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I got a grade 2-3 separated shoulder on 3/10/06. I thought it was a broken collar bone also. I also inexplicably got the no big deal diagnosis from the doc. And "don't worry it's not a broken collar bone". Why do they act like it's nothing?! After having researched and lived with it for 2 1/2 years. No surgery, no therapy. I think the same thing I did the first week. I would take ten broken bones sequentially or all together instead of a separated shoulder. The pain is either none or not bad unless I aggravate it but IT IS PERMANENT! Doesn't that make it a bad injury. It is also limiting of the quality of life. Forget weight lifting, tennis or any other racquet sports, hard labor or over head work. This injury is a mild handicap. Having said that, the injury has been livable for now. I don't sleep on that side. I have read many horror stories about bad surgeries. Though it is likely that good surgical outcomes may not be reported due to lack of concern with the injury, I have read that most orthopedic shoulder specialists now recommend against surgery. I think I concur. The risk and the price is high. After extensive research on the procedures, if you are determined to have surgery, the only procedure you should consider is the allograft ligament replacement.
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 10/28/2008 04:29 PM

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aggies691

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Sorry, forgot to mention about the glucosamine and chondroitin. I thought they might help just like you. I remember taking them years ago for something else and they helped. They seem to loosen up the joints. But I actually didn't like it when I took them for my separated shoulder. I took them a while after the injury. It was when the pain was already gone and the shoulder felt pretty stable again. Like maybe the torn ligament firmed up again a little. Anyway, the Glucosamine and Chondroitin made the joint loose and it felt unstable again. I stopped taking them after about a week. Just wanted to add that.
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 10/28/2008 04:25 PM

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aggies691

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What's up nate20e. You may have already read my posting under aggies691 of when I first got injured. Our situations seem pretty similar. I think this injury affects weightlifters/bodybuilders differently than any other person, even other active people and athletes from other sports. The first thing I want to tell you is this isn't the end of lifting weights or being extremely active. And I'm glad you sound pretty optimistic about the injury in your post. I can't remember if I wrote about it in my post but at one point I was in pretty bad shape mentally. For at least a few months I'd say I may have even been technically in a depression. I'm 31 now and have been lifting for 18 years. When the pain was the worst I thought I'd never be able to lift again and the thought of not being able to do something I love really got me down. That was over a year ago now though. Things are actually better than I could have imagined. There are a lot of things that happened to get me here(many doctors, xrays, a chiropracter, etc.) but the bottom line is I'm in the best shape of my life and its weird but I almost have this injury to thank. Because of the injury I couldn't lift heavy with low reps like I did my whole life. I had to change to high reps, like 15-20 per set, with much lighter weight. I used to always eat more since I was lifting heavy so I was bigger and stronger then but not in great shape. I started eating better and upped the cardio. I went from being 205-250lb my whole life to about 185lb. I can't lift as much but now I have a six pack that I've always wanted and I'm not shy about taking my shirt off at the pool like I used to be. I still lift 4 days a week and I've done 2 half marathons in the last 4 months. So just know that this injury doesn't have to end the lifestyle you want. You may(and then again, may not, depending on how your body recovers) have to tweak some things but sometimes change is for the better. Bottom line is just keep your head up. There will be tough times but don't let it get you down. The shoulder will heal (too bad not to 100%....I can still see my lump) and you will be able to back at it. It may just take some patience and work. Good luck!
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 08/19/2008 10:50 AM

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canderso2099

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I had a 2nd degree shoulder separation about 2.5 years ago. During sports practice, I fell directly on the top of my dominant shoulder. After the injury, I took about 2 months off sports and lifting. After the break, I returned to all my activities at full force and haven't had any issues since. Besides my clavicle sticking out a bit, the injury hasn't affected me. nate20e, if your injury is a 2nd degree separation, you can expect a 100% recovery.
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 07/13/2008 03:26 PM

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Hey nate20eJust wanted to say that I can relate to what you are going through. I had a similar fall about 7 weeks ago (I fainted, fell badly hitting my head and shoulder on a tv cabinet and landed with full force on my right shoulder). The pain was excruciating and I couldn't move my arm above my shoulder. I knew it wasn't right as there was a bone protruding out of my shoulder. I got it x-rayed straight away and they said that it wasn't broken, told me to take some painkillers and asked if I wanted a sling. Obviously I said yes (although I was slightly concerned when the nursing staff tried to put the sling on my left uninjured shoulder...). They sent me on my way so I felt that it was nothing to be concerned about.Anyway, after a day of rest (I also had a really bad black eye from the fall) I returned to work (still in considerable pain) and also decided to go for physio to get some treatment for a few weeks. The physio thought I had torn some ligaments and it would take approx 6 weeks to heal. she told me to do some exercises for the muscles in my shoulder and back. The physio didn't seem to think the bump on my shoulder was anything to worry about. Looking back, I am surprised now that the physio didn't recognise my AC joint was disrupted and recommend wearing a sling.I have become increasingly frustrated as even now (week 7) even after minor things cause pain in my shoulder (brushing teeth, lifting something, reaching for a glass etc) and I get an uncomfortable "catching" and clicking feeling in my shoulder too.Being an active and sporty person, I am finding this injury extremely frustrating. I play field hockey and golf and like most sports that use the shoulder (tennis, swimming etc). About 2 weeks ago I went to my GP and explained what happened. He told me to get the shoulder x-rayed again and this showed the disruption to the acromioclavicular joint. I was advised to see an orthopaedic surgeon. He diagnosed my shoulder as a grade 2-3 and told me that I should have had my arm in a sling for 3 - 6 weeks after the fall. I had my arm in a sling for a day!! He recommended following the conservative approach and not going down the surgical route. I have had weight bearing x rays and have to get an MRI done next week.Bottom line is I now a bump on my right shoulder (this might be more of an issue for girls than guys as girls tend to expose shoulders more wearing dresses etc). Being a girl I am not thrilled about it but it seems there is nothing I can do to reduce the bump other than surgery (which I have been advised against). Of greater concern to me is how it will affect me in terms of playing sports. I really didn't think an injury resulting from fainting would lead to me being out of action for up to 12 weeks, maybe more. The ortho specialist told me I would likely have problems with my shoulder for the rest of my life, likely to develop arthitis and will probably affect golf swing/ hockey on an ongoing basis etc. The biggest challenge has been that there is very little knowledge about his type of injury and I feel I have gone round the houses trying to find out what is wrong and how to treat it.Did you get your shoulder taped up? Am wondering if this would help or if 7 weeks post injury is too late now.Anyway, I hope your injury gets better soon and you get back to the gym soon.
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 05/13/2008 11:06 PM

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nate20e

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Hey guys, just wanted to share my story of a level 2 shoulder separation. Like most people, I scoured the net trying to find remedies or just plain basic information on this injury and found little. I found this site a few days ago and have read just about every post and it has been helpful. About 6 1/2 weeks ago I slipped in my kitchen barefoot on a wet floor and landed all of my weight on my right (dominant) shoulder. I'm 5'8" and weigh 165 lbs. When it happened I knew that something was wrong immediately and I thought that I had probably broken my collar bone. It happened early in the morning so I waited until later that day to go to the doc. Since I don't have insurance, I had to go to an urgent care place here in my city. I was in very intense pain and I couldn't move my arm at all. The urgent care place took an x-ray and that was it. They sent me away in a sling with a prescription for pain meds and told me to have a nice day. I thought initially that I was just being a big wuss because nothing was broken. I should have gone to an orthopedics office instead, but without insurance it would have been a tough bill to swallow, no pun intended. So after a couple of weeks of anti inflams and no progress, I turned to the net for answers. After spending a few hours on the net, I discovered that I had a type/class 2 shoulder separation. After doing my research, I can't imagine what a type 3 or above feels like, as this was the worst pain in my life. I think that the only reason that this injury wasn't worse is the fact that I've lifted weights on a regular basis since I was 16, and I've lifted heavy weights for the past 6 years (I'm 26 now). Lifting weights strengthens tendons and ligaments, and I think that without my history, I would have definitely suffered the type 3 separation.My biggest issue so far has been the time out of the gym. I work at a gym part time and not being able to work out is killing me. I've been doing all of the mild stretching exercises and such that I've found online, but I still can't put more than 10 or so lbs of weight on my shoulder. It's very frustrating to say the least. I think what I've learned from this more than anything is that when ligaments are injured, they take a looooong time to heal. I've been able to ride my bicycle on the street, but I doubt that mountain biking would be an option right now.So far in my research, the only thing other than time that I can do to help is to start a regimen of glucosamine and chondroitin. I know that most joint remedy pills offer the trifecta of glucosamine, chondroitin and msm, but some studies have linked msm to an elevated risk of prostate cancer so I try to avoid it. I have taken this stuff before as kind of an afterthought, but never for a specific injury. Hopefully this will help in lessening the time of recovery so that I can get back in the gym. After reading all that I can about this injury, even the lesser degree of it is devastating to the active individual. I think that the greatest challenge when separating your shoulder is what to do in the idle time that you used to spend working out. I didn't think that I would be out of the gym for this long, but after reading everything on the net, I will probably be out for at least another 4 weeks, which sucks. I've had many injuries throughout my life but this seems to have the longest recovery time of any that I've had so far. I can't even begin to lift weights until the 10-12 week point. Maybe I've just been lucky up until this point.If anyone has any advice or any questions, feel free to let me know. The one thing that frustrated me about this injury was the lack of information on the net. Thanks.
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